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PostSubject: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 6:43 pm

First topic message reminder :

Firstly, I want to apologize for not to post all of the screenshots, but I was so concentrated in not to get obliterated Laughing However I could get 2 demos from which I took the below screenshots. But you can ask Marreira if you feel courious. Also Droid and n0cu were spectating all the time, sadly Driod did not take the SS (nor was his responsibility) so if Marreira or n0cu feel the need to post them here it's ok, go on.

I cropped the SS since the image hosting didn't let me upload such huge images (imageshack), also if anyone wants the demos just ask and I'll upload them (please suggest some good file hosting server)

The match was made in MA server 3033

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We did 4 matches

1st match Global Score [Praetor: 1 Marreira: 1]- Marreira's pick: ac_desert DM - Result: Draw (Same number of frags. No SS)
2nd match Global Score [Praetor: 1 Marreira: 2]- Praetor's pick: ac_desert DM - Result: (Marreira won(see the first ss)
3rd match Global Score [Praetor: 2 Marreira: 2]- I can't remeber who choosed what but it was ac_douze OSOK - Result: I won (see the second ss)
4th match Final Global Score [Praetor: 3 Marreira:2] - I can't remember exactly who choosed what but it was ac_gothic OSOK - Result: I won. (No SS)

Yes...It was a hell of a game....

Excellent game Marreira.


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Whole images I tried to be in the same viepont as in my first ss. Now they show the FPS I got. Never ever call me a liar again n0cu.

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AND THE DEMOS OF THOSE SS

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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 10:17 pm

Marreira do you have the first game screen shot?


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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 10:18 pm

Droid wrote:
Marreira do you the first screen shot?


Yes i have all ss and demos
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 10:18 pm

Can you please post the first game
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 10:28 pm

I was there, only seeing to believe… Happened what I was suspecting… No surprise!!! He did not annex demos and original SS. Again! Did anybody see an original SS annexed by him in any play??! Interesting.... I already saw this movie in ESL, many times.... I would like seeing the fps of 25 in yours original SS, Praetor!!! Joker! I say and affirm: is impossible to play with this fps and still more to defeat the Marreira in osok and dm with the speed and precision what I saw. Well, as I am not ignorant, I invite any player Assault Cube, so type: "/maxfps 25" and try to play against another opponent, so it seemed a little strange to talk the Praetor, who won the Marreira using a laptop with a 25 fps. Do not think we are all idiots for believing it! You give yourself up in his lies. I was very curious to see his original SS! Why I am not surprised with SS of demos!?!?

Without commenting again of his ridiculous fps, do you play like a very experienced player, at last who is you really? Show up, his mask fell after these plays without the shotgun! Who are u, really?!

I have the demos, the valid demos, because after I saw the rules of the tournament I am not going to annex the demos of osok. Marreira was induced to mistake by the organizer, who invented a non-existent rule. Marreira trusted him, that this created rule exists. Therefore what I do not announce of any championship. U has to learn a little with Drakas and TyD clan!

The demos of the victory of Marreira:

First play:

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Second play:

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Praetor saying for us that he played in a laptop with 25 of fps (sic). A lie of how many?!?!?!?!?!:

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FINALLY, I CHALLENGE YOU, PRAETOR: PLAY AGAIN WITH MARREIRA, WIN AND ANNEX HERE, FOR THE FIRST TIME, THE ORIGINAL OF THE STRUGGLE! COME ON, “SMART” BOY!





Here, Atrimos, Praetor saying of his fps. U believe in that?!?! ;D I know your answer:


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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 10:56 pm

25 what? cyclops

serious nocu, calm down.
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 11:01 pm

hmm the scores are tied to D:
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 11:04 pm

Hahah sorry if I dont have a super PC like you probably have.....and yes I'm a very experienced player (and I demostrated it by winning to the 'almighty' Marreira Very Happy)....are you used to play with 13 years old boys n0cu???

You have the valid demos you say? me too (At least the two I could get)!!!


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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 11:11 pm

Let me explain why Praetor won:

Game 1: was a tie (both frags and score) and according to the tourney rule "If there is a tie the winner shall be decided by the score" In this case the score was tied at 149 so this match doesn't have an influence on the remaining games. So it is still 0-0.

Game 2: Marreira won by 2 frags so he won this game. As of now it is 1-0 Marriera.

Game 3: Praetor won by 7 so he won this game. Now it is tied 1-1.

Game 4: Since it is tied there is another game to decide the winner, because it is a best of 3. Praetor won this game so Praetor wins the match 2-1.

The reason a fourth game was played was because you can't win a best out of 3 with one win. This is fair.

I apologize that this all happened. I over looked that rule. I take full responsibility for this. You both played great games and I am a witness and n0cu is too to these games. Congrats to Praetor, he moves on.
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Praetor is the winner !!!!!
A round of applause to you guys ...
But its okay we'll meet sometimes ...
and you, Praetor, try playing with me, 25 fps next time .... in a league organized by people with scruples.


Ahhh, not sure, post the original ss
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Subject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira Today at 6:04 am
Hahah sorry if I dont have a super PC like you probably have.....and yes I'm a very experienced player (and I demostrated it by winning to the 'almighty' Marreira )....are you used to play with 13 years old boys n0cu???


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TOUCHE!!!!


'Praetor", You do not need to say more anything. His cowardice speaks for you and his words hand over you.
And.... I usually play with honest players, which is not his case Wink




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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 11:47 pm

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Subject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira Today at 6:04 am
Hahah sorry if I dont have a super PC like you probably have.....and yes I'm a very experienced player (and I demostrated it by winning to the 'almighty' Marreira )....are you used to play with 13 years old boys n0cu???


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TOUCHE!!!!


'Praetor", You do not need to say more anything. His cowardice speaks for you and his words hand over you.
And.... I usually play with honest players, which is not his case Wink





Cowardice you say, Where is the challenge? What if I played with that FPS? Is there any rule that says you need more than XXX FPS to beat someone? I did and I did it fairly. I'm honest I told you I was gonna play with that FPS...I did not lie you. I play fair wheter you believe it or not. I dont care.

It's a shame you use those kind of falacies.

I'm ready to give Marr the victory if he wishes...not a problem for me...after all the results are there. And I won
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 5:04 am

N0cu, Remember, you were one of the best players and your clan are not used to getting beat. As Praetor said there is no rule as to how higher FPS you need to beat someone. You go into the rulebook and show me exactly where it says you have to have higher then 200 FPS to be able to beat someone.....
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 5:27 am

mhm its really hard to believe... i m a very good player in osok and i know that fps can makes the difference in that mode.. i played mareira on my laptop with 60 fps and i can tell u thats its nearly impossible to win with 25 fps but if u did it honestly GG.

i never saw nocu and mareira reacting like that so i think they have good reasons.

See u next tourney
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 6:09 am

GG marreira fps 1000 preator 25 kkkkk no coments
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 6:35 am

Win vs Marreira with 25 fps Is not possible!
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 7:04 am

Fuck me, until you get the proof he hacks you can not accuse him of hacking. I mean fps just means how many frames you see. NOT the accuracy you get. It is not like you can't shoot him. Until you have proof he hacks please to not say he hacks :\
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 7:15 am

no wonder marr is so good he has 1K FRAMES PER SECOND man i wish my computer had that much D:
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 7:19 am

Nobody has accused him ... just know that any player with 25 fps, it is unfeasible to play.
And the most aggravating of all, he has not posted the original ss.
What is the vision he has at the moment of the game, taken from SS demo, are unconvincing.
The strange thing is that the game: praetor vs station, the only ss, which he edited was the game osok.
Too much coincidence
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 7:19 am

Marreira wrote:
But its okay we'll meet sometimes ...
Of course we'll do.

Marreira wrote:

and you, Praetor, try playing with me, 25 fps next time .... in a league organized by people with scruples.

Believe it, when I'm in this laptop I can play with that number of FPS, but you must know there are certain aareas and certain maps when theres is a considerable down in the FPS...
However when i play on my desktop PC sometime i get around 160 FPS...

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Ahhh, not sure, post the original ss
I did see my original post Wink, they were taken from the same demos n0cu posted, so I really don't know what you mean with 'original'
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Praetor, the real problem is not losing, that's a game.
The problem is when you tell me who played with 25 fps, and I know with this value the game is slow and locked.
If you're better than me, great ... congratulations this is normal there is always someone better than another.
But you can be an excellent player, but one thing's for sure: You do not do miracles.
And to me it comes, it comes to hitting the mouth.
Let each one, get his impressions of everything that happened here
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PostSubject: Re: ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira   ~TgS~Praetor -vs- O3|Marreira - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 7:36 am

Marreira wrote:
Nobody has accused him ... just know that any player with 25 fps, it is unfeasible to play.
Again: There are certain parts of the map when your fPS drops dwon and some parts when yout FPS increase.....
Marreira wrote:

And the most aggravating of all, he has not posted the original ss.
I did, see the first post, also when i took the ss and cropped it I modified the ss so I couldn't reverse the changes thats why I tried to get the same ss from almost the same point of view I was in my first ss.

Marreira wrote:

What is the vision he has at the moment of the game, taken from SS demo, are unconvincing.
Then what view is convincing for you? I can retake an ss from whatever part in the demo....

Marreira wrote:

The strange thing is that the game: praetor vs station, the only ss, which he edited was the game osok.
Too much coincidence
Of course I editted it : I cropped it showing only the result and I'm not the only one that did this. I never tought that by simply cropping an image someone could be called like that or being suceptible to critics of such magnitude because I tought we all had word and honor...Also taking station as an example is a bad idea given the reasons station left O3....


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Marreira wrote:
Praetor, the real problem is not losing, that's a game.
True that Wink

Marreira wrote:

The problem is when you tell me who played with 25 fps, and I know with this value the game is slow and locked.
Those '25' FPS dont were sustained during the whole game match.

Marreira wrote:

If you're better than me, great ... congratulations this is normal there is always someone better than another.
Where did I say that?

Marreira wrote:

But you can be an excellent player, but one thing's for sure: You do not do miracles.
Smile of course I don't do miracles, and certainly, if I won you, it wasn't a miracle...

Marreira wrote:

And to me it comes, it comes to hitting the mouth.

Laughing I did not get that....you want to punch me in the mouth now???

Marreira wrote:

Let each one, get his impressions of everything that happened here

This forums are free for everyone, don't expect any retaliations as a result of your comments, just do it with the enough reasoning...
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MeLoNe wrote:
Win vs Marreira with 25 fps Is not possible!
it is! see the demos ! ^^
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Praetor wrote:
MeLoNe wrote:
Win vs Marreira with 25 fps Is not possible!
it is! see the demos ! ^^

you are more hidden than I thought praetor, does anyone know that if I type in my pc / maxfps 50 or 500 while I'm watching the demo, when I take the ss, this is what will appear, so I tell you making this the ss ... players we all know that when the final game to take ss, will trim what he really is seeing ... if wallhack and aimbot .... thing that does not appear in a ss taken from the demo ... if I want I can take a ss of that game with 25 fps, so I ask again, if the obligation is the winner post the ss, why do not you take a ss when the game ends?
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Praetor forgot to take the screen shots at the end of the game. It happens, people make mistakes, but you had all the screen shots so why didn't you upload them? About the 25 fps, I play with 60 so I know that it is possible to beat Marreira who has 1000. I don't see how it is that big a deal. Marreira have you ever even played with an fps of less than 60? If you have skill you can beat a lot of people regardless of the fps. Personally, I feel that there is more coming out of this than there has to be. Marreira you lost. The match is over. Praetor does NOT cheat.
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